These tests were designed to compare practice schldger blades with other
fencing blades commonly used in the SCA and against various protective gear
to provide data on which to base safety regulations for the use of practice
schldgers in the SCA.
BLADE FLEX TEST
It has become apparent that different schldger blades flex with different
amounts of pressure. Though there is a rating system (0= Lightest to 3 =
Stiffest) many blades are not marked and those marked are inconsistent. One
source, Malcolm the Scott of Scotty Armory, explained that the blades come
from several different forges in Germany and that even within one forge they
are not always consistent. This test was designed to give us enough data to
allow us to build a consistent rating system for practice schldgers.
In addition, one of the major concerns about practice schldgers has been over the amount of blunt trauma they will inflict, relative to other fencing weapons. By charting the flex of other weapons we were able to gain a basis for comparison.
Weapon Date Weapon Force to Flex Number Tested Type In Lbs. F1 01/07/96 Foil 3 F2 01/09/96 Foil 3 F3 01/09/96 Foil 3 F4 01/11/96 Foil 3 F5 01/07/96 Foil 4 F6 01/07/96 Foil 4-5 F7 01/09/96 Foil 4-5 F16 01/09/96 Foil 4-4.5 F8 01/09/96 Foil 4.5-5 F9 01/09/96 Foil 4.5-5 F15 01/09/96 Foil 4.5-5 F18 01/09/96 Foil 4.5-5 F19 01/09/96 Foil 4.5-5 F10 01/07/96 Foil 4.5-5.5 F11 01/09/96 Foil 5 F12 01/09/96 Foil 5-5.5 F13 01/09/96 Foil 5-6 F14 01/09/96 Foil 5.5 F17 01/09/96 Foil 5.5-6Average Foil: 4.5
D1 01/07/96 Dagger 2-3 D2 01/07/96 Dagger 2-3 D3 01/09/96 Dagger 2-3 D4 01/09/96 Dagger 3-4Average Light Dagger: 2.8
D5 01/11/96 Prier Dagger 8-10 D6 01/09/96 Prier Dagger 9.5-14 D7 01/09/96 Prier Dagger 11Average Prier Dagger: 11.3
D8 01/07/96 Prier Dagger 12-15
E1 01/09/96 Epie 5.5-6 E2 01/07/96 Epie 6-7 E3 01/09/96 Epie 6-7 E4 01/09/96 Epie 6-7 E5 01/07/96 Epie 6-9 E6 01/09/96 Epie 6.5 E7 01/09/96 Epie 6.5-7.5 E8 01/09/96 Epie 7-7.5 E9 01/07/96 Epie 7-8 E10 01/09/96 Epie 7-8 E11 01/09/96 Epie 7.5-8 E12 01/07/96 Epie 8-9 E13 01/11/96 Epie 8-10Average Epie: 7
M1 01/09/96 Musketeer 14
A1 01/11/96 Antir Rapier+ 6
S1 01/07/96 Schldger 9 S2 01/09/96 Schldger(2) 10.5 S3 01/07/96 Schldger 11 S4 01/07/96 Schldger 12 S5 01/09/96 Schldger 13.5 S6 01/07/96 Schldger 16 S7 01/07/96 Schldger(3) 26Average Schldger: 14
S6* 01/07/96 Broken Schldger 23
+ Antir Fiberglass rapier, 5 years old. They now make them stiffer. * This is the same blade as S6, above, after 4.5 inches broke off the end. (N) The numbers in parentheses indicate this number was stamped on the Schldger blade.
Another observation was that the lighter schldgers have about the same flex as the stiffer epies, and schldgers of medium stiffness equate to musketeer blades. Although we have no proof that the stiffness of the blades correlates to the likelihood of inflicting blunt trauma damage it does seem logical to assume they are related.
We also noted that when one of our blades broke the stiffness increased markedly. With the loss of only 4.5 inches from the end of the blade the flex rose from 16 lbs. to 23 lbs. -- an increase of 7 lbs.
This test is designed to determine what sort of material is necessary to prevent a blade from punching through a fighter's protective garments. I checked with Tivar to find out how the original punch tests for foils were conducted. Using the same methodology I recreated those tests with schldger blades. This was done on two separate occasions and at the second one Robin of Gilwell assisted me and also provided broken foils and epies for comparison.
One of our schldgers broke during testing, allowing us to perform our tests with an actual broken schldger. I have been told by several sources that schldgers break flat and even and in fact when the blade broke it was indeed flat and almost as strait as a machine cut. Because the corners were somewhat sharp we performed additional tests to determine if that would be a problem.
Alternate testing methods were used to gather additional data. To determine what protection a single layer of trigger provides we grasped unbroken practice schldger blades by the hilt in a standard fencing grip and thrust at the cloth. To test the reliability of the HTM rubber rabbit blunts we are using as protective tips we placed one on a practice schldger, unmodified from how it came from the manufacturer (a slightly pointed tip) and then thrust against 1 layer of trigger (to keep the tip from sinking into the ground) laid on soft ground.
In the material punch tests we found that an untipped or broken schldger could penetrate 4 layers of trigger, though it would not do so every time. Penetration occurred about 1 out of 3 to 1 out of 4 hits. With 5 layers of trigger we did punch through once using our stiffest blade, but could not repeat it with the other blades. Six Layers was proof against the schldgers.
By contrast, we were not able to penetrate 4 layers of trigger with a foil and only once with an epie.
I have also heard of "old trigger" and "new trigger". Supposedly, the old trigger was stouter and the new trigger is thinner and less resilient. By chance the first test was performed with new trigger purchased in 1995 to conduct the test, and the second test was performed with old trigger that Don Robin had left over from a garment he built years ago. Both were in like -new condition. The results of the two tests were virtually identical, even to the single penetration of 5 layers by the stiff schldger. While this does not prove that there are no variations among different manufacturers it does show that in this case there was no significant difference between old trigger and new trigger.
We tested leather as well, testing both 3-4 oz. leather and heavier 4-5 oz. leather. Both were suede, not top grain. The 3-4 oz. was not penetrated by the foils and epies, but the schldgers did penetrate a few times. The 4-5 oz . leather was not penetrated by foils, epies or schldgers.
The shape of the end of the schldger blade also made a difference in how easily the blade penetrated. the four blade ends were:
Blade end #1 penetrated the most easily, as one would expect. However, blade end #2, the rounded end, also penetrated fairly easily. The flat broken end (#3) did not penetrate as easily, nor did the #4, the flat smooth end. The main difference between #3 and #4 was that the sharper cornered #3 end scarred the materials more -- actual penetration was the same.
We were concerned about the sharp corners of end #3 so we conducted tests striking at an angle so the sharp corner would hit the material first. Scarring increased, indicating that a fighter might have been scratched through a single layer shirt or similar clothing, but actual penetration decreased markedly.
Stiffness of the blade also seemed to play a part in penetration. Given the same type of blade end, the stiffest blade penetrated most easily.
The fact that a stiffer blade penetrates more easily would seem to be one reason for limiting the stiffness of blades allowed on the field.
The sharp corners on a broken schldger blade may cause scratches and other superficial damage to a fighter, but should not be a factor in serious or life threatening injury.
The flat, smoothed blade end (#4) seems to be the safest of those we tested.
Schldgers, whether untipped or broken, clearly penetrate more easily than do broken foils. While a foil that has lost or punched through it's rubber tip is not particularly dangerous, a schldger that has lost it's tip is a real hazard.
The HTM rabbit blunts hold up well. Although, like any tip, they will eventually wear out the thick rubber in the head (we measured it -- 1/8 inch ) should protect well for a long time.
HTM rabbit blunts should be the standard tip for use on schldgers. Before any other tip is passed by the marshalate it should undergo similar extreme testing. Under this tip I recommend a strip of 4 oz. leather be used to tighten the fit and to help insulate the rubber from wearing against the metal blade end. The tip should be inspected separately as it is so critical here. A good inspection would be to examine the tip for wear, then grasp the blade with one hand, the tip with the other and give it a few firm tugs to assure it will stay in place.
Schldger blade ends should be required to be cut flat, then lightly filed to remove sharp corners and edges. Rounded and pointed blade ends should be prohibited.
The stiffness of schldgers allowed on the field should be limited, in part to reduce the risk of penetration from an untipped blade.
Author:Don Savian (James Crouchet)
Greetings From Don Savian Dori, Heavy Rapier (Schlager) marshal for Ansteorra.
I am posting this information for those who are interested. These are the results of several tests conducted over the past month. If you do have an interest, please feel free to comment to me at jtc@io.com.
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